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Scammer – 2003 4117 John Deere 4×4 Compact Tractor

Posted in database, ebay spoof, scammer by Chief on January 20, 2010

Lisa has this posted in numerous regions on Craigslist:

2003 4117 John Deere 4×4 Compact Tractor – $4900
Date: 2010-01-05, 11:10AM EST
Reply to: see below
John Deere
Model: 4710
Model Year: 2003
Hours: #450.1
Serial Number: LV4710H170681
Fuel: Diesel
Engine Cylinders: 4
Engine HP: 46
Transmission: Hydrostatic
Please contact me at lisatlr75@gmail.com
2003 John Deere 4710 Compact Tractor with Deere 460 Loader.
Hydrostatic transmission so no shifting, just a pedal for forward and one for reverse.
Runs great, one of the nicest tractors you’ll find for the age/hours.
Cat 1 hitch with 2500 lb lift capacity.
Loader has 73″ wide bucket with 2300 lb capacity and can haul a lot of snow, dirt, sand, etc.
It’s been stored indoors .
Seat is new (I poked a hole in the old one with a screwdriver in my back pocket), paint is good with light scratches where you would expect them… on the loader, etc.
Starts easily even in the coldest weather, and runs like a champ.
Has kit so exhaust goes out the bottom instead of in your face.
Can be used for farm work, landscaping, general construction, a very versatile machine. Around 4500 lbs, so its light enough to transport on a small trailer or car trailer, but heavy enough to do what need to be done.

We’ve used it for the storage busines we run to move snow and dirt, spread and level gravel, move round and large square hay bales, move campers and boats from building to building, and pull trucks/cars from the ditches along our road and driveway.

we have a 7′ snow blower (included) that we use when the snow gets too deep and this tractor powers it great.
I also have a bale spear for the loader.
Takes up less space than many cars, only 74″ wide so it can easily be stored anywhere
This tractor has turf tires so it won’t tear up your yard, plus they have great traction. They clean out well and work great in snow/mud, and have superior traction on ice. Tractor has 450.1 hours currently (loader has only about 228 hours)

A follow-up email from lisatlr75@gmail.com, the scammer:

Hi , The John Deere 4710 4×4 Compact Tractor with 460 Loader is still for sale. The condition is simply excellent,engine cylinders 4, engine hp 46, transmission hydrostatic, diesel, has 450 hours loader has 228, instruments included in the price snow blower mower loader. Here are some pics: http://picasaweb.google.com/lisatlr75/2003JohnDeere4710 .The title is clear and on my name. My final price is $4.900. I already has tons of emails so I hope you understand that I need to sort them out. I will take in consideration only those who are really interested in buying the tractor, to be sure that I don’t waste my time with endless discussions that will lead to nothing. This way, I shall be assured of the serious intentions. Thank you. P.S. I will list the tractor on eBay at the buy it now price of $4,900 so you can purchase it there. That way you will receive assistance for the purchase, paperwork, title transfer and an extended warranty. They also are guaranteeing purchases up to $ 10.000 so we will both be protected.

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  1. Wendell Ollila said, on February 6, 2010 at 9:29 am

    This is listed on Craigs list in kenosha wisconsin now.

  2. jake said, on February 9, 2010 at 10:34 am

    This thing is posted all over the country! I saw it in Dayton OH initially, but quick google search shows …

  3. gregs said, on February 10, 2010 at 7:44 am

    This has shown up in North Carolina.

    2003 John Deere 4710 Compact Tractor with Deere 460 Loader. Hydrostatic transmission so no shifting, just a pedal for forward and one for reverse. Runs great, one of the nicest tractors you’ll find for the age/hours. Cat 1 hitch with 2500 lb lift capacity. Loader has 73″ wide bucket with 2300 lb capacity and can haul a lot of snow, dirt, sand, etc.
    Seat is new, paint is good with light scratches where you would expect them… on the loader, etc. Starts easily even in the coldest weather, and runs like a champ. Has kit so exhaust goes out the bottom instead of in your face.
    Can be used for farm work, landscaping, general construction, a very versatile machine. Around 4500 lbs, so its light enough to transport on a small trailer or car trailer, but heavy enough to do what need to be done. This tractor has turf tires so it won’t tear up your yard, plus they have great traction. They clean out well and work great in snow/mud, and have superior traction on ice. Tractor has 795 hours currently.
    For any questions please mail at:

    suzanne19655@msn.com

  4. Chief said, on February 10, 2010 at 8:12 am

    Greg, thanks for posting the text and email. This same ad is found in Craigslist regions:
    San Diego, CA
    Dallas, GA
    Hollywood, FL
    West Delray Beach, FL
    Mebane, NC
    Boston, MA
    Eastpointe, MI
    Glenside, PA
    Richardson, TX
    Seattle, WA
    Lake St Louis, MO
    Troy, NC

  5. Kevin Schmidt said, on March 2, 2010 at 10:05 am

    Theres a guy right now on Craigslist selling a Jon Deere 4410 with 340 hrs on it for $4200.He says it is in Gleason<but when I emailed him he said he is in Kansas and he is selling it through E-bay.

  6. Chief said, on March 2, 2010 at 11:28 am

    Kevin – Thanks for adding your comment. After reading your post, we flagged a similar listing in Springfield, IL.

    Chief

  7. scott said, on March 11, 2010 at 7:11 am

    The 2003 John Deere tractor also is posted in Opelika,Al this is the e-mail address jenniferdrb80@gmail.com just thought word should be spread around

  8. Chief said, on March 11, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Duly noted, Scott! Every little bit of info helps prevent the next scam! Feel free to post the text of any emails to load the search engines with more data. — Chief

  9. Hal said, on March 12, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    I just saw the same craigslist ad under East Oregon in La Grande, Or. under jenniferdrb80@gmail.com.

  10. Mark from Omaha said, on March 29, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    The scam continues. Another identical post from jenniferdrb80@gmail.com in the Omaha Craigs List. Was there earlier this evening as posting ID #1661271188 listed on March 25 2010, said she was from Bellevue NE. Posting is not visible now a couple of hours later.

  11. Terri said, on March 30, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    She’s also on the Sacramento CL. My poor husband is so disappointed! He really wanted this tractor.

  12. Chief said, on March 31, 2010 at 7:08 am

    Terri, thanks for stopping by. Remember, “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!” Be sure to spread the word to your friends and family regarding how these scammers work. — Chief

  13. peter said, on April 27, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    Ditto!

    4/27: posted on Craigslist on Washington, DC.

    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/grd/1712504952.html

    contact is now emelyphl44@hotmail.com

  14. peter said, on April 27, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Ditto!

    4/27: posted on Craigslist on Washington, DC.

    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/grd/1712504952.html

    contact is now emelyphl44@hotmail.com

    Hey! help me understand… how DO these scammers make money on this???
    if you pay through paypal on ebay it seems pretty secure….or am I missing something???

  15. Chief said, on April 27, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    Peter, thanks for your submission. It’ll help someone else! — Chief

  16. Chief said, on April 27, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Peter,

    These crooks will not use paypal and will throw at you a variety of reasons why they cannot. Look around our site for some of the examples such as this one. It is a fake ebay site and the scammers want you to send the money via moneygram or western union — a NO-NO for deals with anyone you do not know personally.

  17. Tori said, on July 6, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    SAN DIEGO has this on craigslist for $3200 delivered. Ebay says they get you to buy in a fake escrow company which is not ebay then your money is gone. When I emailed about this to tell them they had a typo on the listing price. She (Cynthia Gray) wrote this email SCAM

    “Hello,

    Thank you for your interest in purchasing my tractor. The tractor is in perfect condition – like new! If you decide to buy it, you’ll receive all the papers, owner manual, keys, a buy-sell contract already signed by me and the clear title. For this transaction I want to use ebay because I want to provide you a fast and very secure way. They will handle the transaction for me. You will make the payment to ebay and they will hold the money until you receive and inspect the tractor. ONLY AFTER you receive the tractor and you inspect it (you have 5 days for inspection) ebay will release the payment to me. The inspection time period will begin as soon as you receive the tractor at your address. Meanwhile eBay will hold the money into a trust account. So, this is not a blind transaction, you can see the tractor before you decide to buy it. This way we are both protected : i will know that i have a serious buyer who has the money to pay me and you will be able to see and inspect the tractor before buying it .
    The tractor is priced to sell quickly and the final price that I’m asking for it is $3,200 including shipping and handling costs. My husband died in Iraq 3 months ago and I along with my daughter decided to sell the house and move to my sister. I can’t afford to take days off my work for this sale so i’m trying to sell it online.
    If you are really interested in purchasing the tractor please send me your full name, shipping address and your phone number. Ebay will give you all the details regarding the shipping and payment.
    I will appreciate an answer as soon as possible.

    Regards!

    Cynthia Gray

    P.S.: Below you will a full desription and the pictures i have taken for this sale. Please take a closer look before you decide.

    Item specifics – Riding Mowers
    Make: John Deere
    Model: 3320
    Model Year: 2007
    Hours: 95
    Drive: 4WD
    Fuel: Diesel
    Engine Cylinders: 3
    Engine HP: 32
    Transmission: Hydrostatic
    Product Type: 3320 e-hydro pwr steering

    This is a “like new”
    John Deere 3320, E-Hydro, 32HP Diesel,
    4 wheel drive, R-4 Tires, Power Steering, 3 point hitch, with 300x loader and 61″ bucket.
    Hours are approx 95!
    If you are using it for farm, yard, greenhouse or business this is a fantastic tractor.”

  18. pacer said, on July 10, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    still alive and well

    http://ocala.craigslist.org/tls/1835406619.html

  19. Steve said, on April 27, 2012 at 9:45 am

    On Craigslist in Topeka, KS. I emailed then flagged as I knew it was a scam. This was the reply sent.

    Here are some pictures: http://imgur.com/a/VknB1

    Hello again, the tractor is at the shipping company in cargo shield on McCaskill, Arkansas ready to be delivered ground US for free!
    There are all necessary paperwork ( Original bill of sale, all transport documents and my paperwork stating the sale of the tractor to you.
    I’m working in the army (101st Airborne, 1 – 320th Artillery Division) and I am being deployed to in about 2 days, also I had prearranged the deal with Google Checkout so my presence isn’t necessary.
    After you receive this tractor you will have 5 days to test drive and inspect the tractor.
    If you are not satisfied with the tractor, you can send it back at my expense, and get a full refund of your payment.
    So if you want to make this deal I need the following details from you:

    Full name and address
    Shipping address
    Phone #

    After I will have all this details I will forward them to google checkout and they will precede the order.
    They will contact you today with all the details that you need to complete this deal.
    I wait your email with the requested details.

    Thanks,
    David Hawke
    Sent from my iPad


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